The ANL case continues as they seek permission to appeal the scantly granted summary judgment, yet as expected TW’s team are stalling. They can do that of course, but if they have nothing to hide, then why don’t they simply supply the documents as requested? The case has been updated, and no doubt the duo will push some puff pieces to deflect from this, but this is a usual PR tactic.
One must remember that this case was more or less decided before the March OW interview (back in October 2020) and the other public attacks the duo have made against the Monarchy and members of the RF. Had these taken place before the summary judgment was granted, one may think BP would have been a little more eager to repsond to ANL when they requested statements from the Palace Four. Perhaps if there had been no summary judgment and a trial in October instead, would the OW interview have taken place, and would Harry have been so dismissive (and quite frankly rude about the People and his family) of his family on the Apple TV documentary?
There are several issues to consider here, and bear in mind Knauf’s guarded statement in April 2021, followed by his resignation – while BP must protect The Queen and the Royal Household, Knauf’s actions must also protect that of KP and the Royal Foundation. However, the sparse statements seemed to have large inconsistent gaps in them, and to the public appear to be less than satisfactory. They were inconsistent with the information the ANL source had provided, where some elements were proven to be correct through TW’s responses and Knauf himself, although both parties appeared to be reluctant to part with the truth.
The problem that the court system faces is that this is a very public case that the People see as unjust and biased, where elements of the case were ignored to favour TW (because the HRH style still exists). One assumes if anyone else had made numerous re-amended statements in a court, they would have received some harsh penalties from the judge, because this behaviour is not tolerated, and is an attempt to bypass the guidelines This sends an unsafe message to any criminals at large, that they could potentially do the same to circumvent the law, and the summary judgment has set a somewhat shaky precedent that could be interpreted in subsequent cases to assist those who have committed crimes as such.
English law has traditonally had a sterling reputation in how the judicial system has developed over the centuries, and where many other countries have used the system as a model for their own. That is why it is tragic and an embarrassment to the Nation to have such a case, where it undermines centuries of law-making, to come to this – where evidence was not heard, and the defendant wasn’t given a fair opportunity to defend itself. Since then, the main witness and claimant has publicly made statements that have been proven to be inaccurate, false, and misleading, showing a propensity for such behaviour, that is aligned with the numerous re-amended statements made during the case. Therefore, surely the defence has a right to challenge the validity of the submitted statements under cross-examination?
Judges do make errrors, and that is why the appeal system exists to correct such errors, yet it is a process and not an easy or fast one. Justice must be done and be seen to be done, and BP must act, and be seen to act. Perhaps BP’s reluctance to provide statements was to protect Harry, for they did the bare minimum to assist? Now that it is clear that the duo are content to attack the institution, and to defame them, then how is that protecting the Monarchy or The Queen? Surely they must now ‘act’ to protect The Queen?
An appeal would instill some public faith in the justice system at least, but a failure to allow an appeal will not only tarnish centuries of a system built up on a reputation of impartial justice, but will also harm the Monarchy. As these are Her Majesty’s Courts, shouldn’t they be protecting her from attacks from others, even if they are from within her own wallsand gates?
*The ‘stay’ refers to ANL having to publish an apology and the damages that were awarded, as in they are put on hold until a decision is made whether ANL are granted permission to appeal.
*While comments and thoughts are welcomed on the topic, please refrain from discussing speculation and gossip. These will be deleted and the comments will be turned off.
Sorry to make another comment but the first whizzed off before I could add a little thought I had with regards to HRH status. I was interested to note that because of an administrative error Diana's wedding dress display acknowledgement was corrected to remove Harry's HRH status because the status is not to be currently used. So why does TW continue to use hers in Court?
All the evidence needs to be heard, regardless of the eventual outcome. This is one of the cornerstones of our legal system. It also needs to be exposed as to how deceitful TW is. People need to open their eyes to the fact that the victim status, is a load of gonads.
Great analysis and correlation with the timing of events and the OW interview. Thank you for keeping on this and being fair and impartial with your synopsis of events and for going over this rather dry judicial stuff that would make my eyes cross.
I guess Harry is now 'free' to have that DNA test to see if Charles if actually his father or someone else. That might take care of the HRH style issue. And a whole lot of others.
I'm looking forward to The Truth being told about TW on both a legal front and general media. The money to pay very expensive legal teams for her will run out at some point.
It isn’t enough to keep thanking you for all your hard work. You have my continued support. I hope you are enjoying sunshine and warm weather (not so in my corner of Wales). I feel that Warby made a great error in his judgement. He didn’t see the bigger picture. The appeal must be upheld. It is vital for the People who rely upon the law for fair and equal judgement.
A very clear summation and I hadn't thought of the connection between the successful Summary Judgement and moving forward with the OW interview. Of course, one you mention it, HM, it is clear that without that Judgement, TW and H probably would not have gone forward with the interview - it would have been far too risky in terms of later challenges to TW's credibility. How different things might have turned out in the absence of that interview!
As they say, hindsight is always 20/20, but I must wonder if things had not gone as they did, TW and H might not have been so badly exposed as they are now. Dreadful as the interview(s) was/were, they served to make large swaths of the public aware of how vicious the intent of the duo are, especially emerging within the context of the Duke of Edinburgh's death. It is possible that the interview(s) and their timing, led to the Queen losing patience at last and branding the couple as the liars they are over the name they chose for their daughter.
Wonky as the Summary Judgement appeared to us, the silver lining to that cloud may have been that it engendered over-confidence in TW and H, they overreached, and ended brutally discredited.
So I am viewing the Summary Judgement, as unhappy as I was when it was announced, through the lens of Unintended Consequences.
Best possible outcome: ANL are granted leave to appeal, and the package of retribution is a larger one than we could have imagined: an appeal, a trial, AND an Out of Patience Queen putting the boot in. I will hope for that.
As it was said, "Oh, what tangled webs we weave/When first we practice to deceive!"
Many, many thanks to Harry Markle for pointing out the striking connection between the Summary Judgement and the interview going forward at what surely turned out to be such a bad time for the duo to do it.
It seems that HMTQ has truly lost patience with the duo, at long last, and if there had been shenanigans regarding the SJ (as in tipping-the-scales type) it is certainly unlikely now that BP would do anything to squelch any ensuing scandal. They are possibly at the "let the chips fall where they may" stage, and if a little dirt gets blown onto the RF, well, it won't be the first time, and at least they would have the backing of the Nation this time (in fact if they intervene on TW's behalf, they will lose a lot of what they gained in the Lilibet business).
An appeal allows both sides to present their cases fairly and in the public domain, and that's how it should be. There are more witnesses with varying recollections of the events, and they need to be heard.
People want to know what Sara Latham has to say under oath about the comments made that she assisted with 'that book', because the source wouldn't come out with that statement randomly...
Everything about this case is shrouded in mystery. I'm sure they think that the British public have forgotten, and in many ways we have. So thanks HM for your perseverance in pursuing it.
Thankyou harry for sticking with this. I had begun to lose faith with the Queen and Prince Charles but now hope they will start sticking up for themselves and not let the markles slander the royal family and people of the uk.
Thank you for all the hard work you do. It's so impressive.
I must be thick bc, after reading it twice, I still don't understand the significance of the 15-June action of "Application referred to Lord Justice". Could someone have mercy on me, please, and explain? Sorry to be so dumb.
Many thanks Harry. Let's hope that BP has finally realised that 'never complain, never expla in '
will not wash with these two. I hope that with recent events ( HM telling courtiers to refute any comments that are untrue), the gloves are finally off. The unhinged one was allowed an enormous amount of latitude from the judge, who, I think , must now realise that he was ' done up like a kipper'
Penelope Anne Davies I always thought the Judge was far to quick in his decision, one week it appeared to be going in a positive direction (For us anyway) then he appeared to do an about turn. Way far too interested in getting it out of the way before he moved on . However it is not going to go away as he may have hoped. It will go down in the books with his name very prominently featured and not in a good way.
ANL appear to have been stitched up. Perhaps BP intervened on the Markles' behalf on the understanding that they stop suing the media. This the Markles have not done, presumably in order to maximise the pay-out. The longer they let the case continue, the more likely it is that information becomes available that undermines their position. I would not want to have the Mail for an enemy.
The British press are mostly sitting on the fence, apart from the Mirror and Express who appear to be in their pay. The winners for me are the Daily Star who make fun of the desperate duo. The joke is that publications who still print Marilyn and Elvis absurdity (reincarnated in a cauliflower) the Markle’s can’t touch!
Thank you for your hard work. As a Canadian and living in Toronto I had never heard of TW. I'm thrilled they left Canada. At one point Harry was bring considered to replace our GG. The backlash was huge.
So many freebies for them, but at so much cost to Canadians. I’m thrilled they left for all your sakes, but did they really believe they were above the position?!! I was flabbergasted when they left your beautiful scenic country.
Babsie I did not know that, well I vaguely recall it being banded about, but well some even back then knew what a total fool he was . Guess he would have been happy as he could have dressed up in his uniforms a lot.
I hope the recent announcement that the RF will drop its custom of "never complain, never explain" will favorably play into this at some point very soon. Supposedly, going forward, they will be putting out the truth (not their truth) when falsehoods are spread.
Thank you for this. I have been quite downhearted about the way this seemed to be going but it seems that some sort of corner has been turned now by BP. Perhap things might change now.
I really couldn’t believe that the defence was refused to bring their evidence. Surely Everyman is entitled to his/her day in court. It reminded me of the show trials in the bad old Soviet days.
Common tactic in the US for one side to delay giving documents. Often it is the side that initiated the lawsuit when it doesn't go as planned. Happened to us. Also see Mark Steyn vs Michael Mann - this lawsuit has been going on for the better part of a decade due to the delay of documents. The UK and Canadian courts usually don't allow this to happen they are more efficient. TW likely learned it from her US lawyers.
Many thanks HM. Just when I feel that the situation with the dastardly duo will not be resolved, your infos rekindle my hope that justice will be done and that honour and respect will prevail.
Thank you for the easy to understand up-date and for the hours you put in for us. I know there are some other members of this group helping you so I thank you all as well. :-)
Thank you Harry Markle for this latest information on the appeal. As an American, I am still hoping your British courts will opt for finding out The Truth and stand for justice and integrity. The lies being spouted from the wanna be celebrity/faux royals must be stopped.
It annoyed me so much the level the wife is being protected. It’s puts me right off the royal family. They need to do the right thing. There is covering up on both sides. If the monarchy is dishonest and corrupt then I will do without them thank you
Surely the court can demand the information from TW after all the prevarication...isn't she in breach of ? It is making a mockery of the Court system & must be running up huge legal fees.
Thanks you very much Harry Markle. As our US judicial system is based on yours it is vital that fairness be seen to be done. The symbol of justice is a masked figure holding the scales of justice to visually suggest fairness. This entire situation must be a nightmare for the Queen and previously Prince Philip. It is painful to see photos of them with their grandson. As a grandparent myself I can see the love and bond they had. So on a smaller personal scale the pain the California couple are causing to both families AND YOUR COUNTRY is a tragedy on many levels. If you then add in the staff who have dedicated their lives to your country and culture the pain is of epic proportions. Here in the US I now get ACORN TV AND BRITBOX. What I watch is some of the programs that illustrate the lives of ‘ordinary’ people in the U.K. These are the true keepers of your heritage. Harry Markle you have my deepest respect for how you are trying to save your country’s values and standing in the world.
Just had a thought, as the pair are not supposed to use their HRH and JCMH’s was removed recently from an exhibition, should she actually be called HRH Duchess of Sussex?
The RF has not taken a stand and seem to have been rendered impotent by TW. The inconsistencies and lies must be challenged by the legal system. Money, titles, privileges must go to maintain the integrity of the legal system and the RF.
HarryMarkle, how long (objectively) do you think this indecisiveness by the court can go on, i.e. how long can or will they (the Court/the Judge) allow the duo to stall the case/any response to ANL's request for documents? Surely this can't last forever. The Palace has to see results (i.e. public attacks/sussexes PR slander) what their mild attitude towards the duo has yielded: it's only hurt the Queen, and the senior royals, while the duo is trying to cement their presence in Hollywood/US. You can't kill 2 birds with 1 stone, so they have to decide: do they save the Queen's legacy/reputation of BP aides (whose job is to protect the Queen) or do they allow the duo to continue throw the mud at the Queen and the family for as long as they choose? I've read some reports where allegedly TW is planning to come for Diana's statue unveiling. I surely hope it's just that : allegations/reports, and not the truth. Also someone wrote that the situation between the duo and the RF/BP will get much worse, before it gets better. I wonder, how much worse? I mean, hasn't Harry attacked his own family enough? Hasn't he burnt too many bridges as it is?
@Kitty...H has indeed attacked enough for us here ( surpassed our limit over a year ago!), but he is an emotional reaction to machinations of TW...none of what is going on now, is without her input. While regrettable that the RF put their concerns too, above citizens and justice, does not ensure her victory...the RF must certainly see public tide now, on their side. Their attention to optics, seems to override their sense of sound and speech...the crowds are roaring disapproval, and their hearing and mutable actions, are seen as intolerable now. Attorneys may be adept in delaying justice with strategic stalling, but perhaps, a triumphant end will be made more emphatic, seen in the clarity of days ahead, without resistant forces which are deceiptful, having their way.
Public perception is important. The process cannot drag on indefinitely because the people rightly see that beyond a certain point, justice delayed, is justice denied.
What has happened to the investigation of bullying that the unhinged one allegedly meted out to the people who worked for her? I hope it hasn't been kicked into the long grass!
I check the status of this appeal every morning; I am glad to see at least something besides awaiting documents. Surely the higher Court cannot ignore the shoddy work of Warby.
It does seem to come down to TW holding the cards, which I cannot believe when nearly everything she has said has been proving to be incorrect, or royally recollections vary
Oh what a tangled web! I can't pretend to understand all you have so carefully outlined HM, but it's dragging on far too long and must be concluded soon. The public don't forget as easily as BP would like us to. Action and clarity are needed now before the TW gets even more smug resting on her laurels and playing the system. Much to the joy of her lawyers laughing all the way to the bank!
I genuinely believe that Ms Markle is untouchable, the British legal system makes special rules just for her, she lies and lies and lies and yet she is always seen as a wonderful woman who is a victim, I am frustrated, let down and disillusioned not only by the British legal system but also by the British RF, we no longer have a legal system that we can be proud of or a monarchy that we can be proud of all because of one woman of suspect character who is ruling Britain all because the RF are scared of being called racist. I am worn down by it all
She's not untouchable but she has the best lawyers in this type of case and the law is such that there are always loopholes to be used and exploited to the max. Very clever people and paid accordingly .
Actually she does not have the best lawyers. Warby himself scolded Schillings for their poor law student level pleadings in some documents. It makes his Summary Judgement even more inexplicable!
@Mp...Worn down, but supported by those here, and more who think alone, not knowing of our " preserve, " here...TW might have once, roared as a lion, but she is frayed now, and licking paws that no longer support her rapid abuses. It is frustrating to be sure, seismic shifts create instability in both political and societal shifts...Great Britain is the "canary in the mine," the "bellwether" for the rest of those countries who see the harm H and his handler inflict daily...Perhaps TW was a necessary infliction upon history, to remind all, what truly, is dear. The end is near.
Thank you Harry Markle for your diligence and perseverance. You are a shining example of the truism that eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. We must insist that those in power protect the courts and judicial system from corruption. If they will not do their sworn duty, if justice and the law are dishonored, something precious and priceless will be cheapened and ultimately lost to a gathering hoard of greedy, amoral hypocrites.
Rosemary as do we all, since being on this site I have a new early morning routine, come down put kettle on let dog out and look at the inbox while tea is brewing. Its a rather boring day when nothing appears dont you think.
This is getting more like Jarndyce v. Jarndyce every day! I do hope I live long enough to see JCMH and TW given their just desserts. Thank you Harry for another forensic investigation.
Could it be possible to back then there still had some kind of protection from the Palace? but now after all the attacks, if there is going to be a re-trial that the outcome will look totally different?
Thank you. Given the monarchy’s inadequate response to the court, the indifferent response by its employee at the time of the events, the continued sussexs HRH against the wishes of the people, I see the monarchy as having undermined the Court. What is more that is the perception and a dangerous unsettling one. International observers noted the surprising actions of the court and judge in the Assange trial and the whole legal actions to him. It’s not looking good. So many years of lawyers, clerks, barristers, judges and support staff have worked so long. Life long for most to have this broken on a whim of the present monarchy is appalling.
I appreciate the content of your article, it helps understand the legal procedure. I do agree that the defendant appears to have the right to an appeal, and the BRF need to support the British Legal System. If this is dismissed, then I see a future of legal ramifications for British justice as this case will be used by guilty parties to get free from their illegal activities.
Thanks for the update. Don’t know how you have the patience to keep going. I am so over these two. They tire me out with their shenanigans. I have given up reading about them and just stick to your sub stack. It’s all I have the patience for. Thanks!
@Joy...I agree ! Perhaps with a forthcoming book or two, the efforts ( and perspectives ,) will highlight motives and subsequent actions upon reflection, that may render answers not obvious in ""real time. " I believe HM will indeed have reward for efforts, once the historical compilation is presented... To safequard historical tradition, to fight when no other has the mettle...to stay when others have abandoned the Battle...yes, a medal would be emblematic of at least, our recognition of a truth warrior...We salute your perseverance and your lonely pursuit of eventual justice ! May your sole efforts preserve that, which all here, hold dear...
Thank you for this great pre-see an explanation of the case. I think it is vital that trust in our judicial system is maintained. It may be that the queen is above the law but those who have left the royal family voluntarily and are seemingly intent on destroying it or not worthy of any protections. I really hope that we will see evidence being given and not just brushed under the carpet. I truly feel this is a sort of watershed in British justice
Sorry to make another comment but the first whizzed off before I could add a little thought I had with regards to HRH status. I was interested to note that because of an administrative error Diana's wedding dress display acknowledgement was corrected to remove Harry's HRH status because the status is not to be currently used. So why does TW continue to use hers in Court?
I already asked this and HM says it’s because she had use of the HRH at the time the case started
Thank you for keeping us all up to date with this.
All the evidence needs to be heard, regardless of the eventual outcome. This is one of the cornerstones of our legal system. It also needs to be exposed as to how deceitful TW is. People need to open their eyes to the fact that the victim status, is a load of gonads.
Great analysis and correlation with the timing of events and the OW interview. Thank you for keeping on this and being fair and impartial with your synopsis of events and for going over this rather dry judicial stuff that would make my eyes cross.
I guess Harry is now 'free' to have that DNA test to see if Charles if actually his father or someone else. That might take care of the HRH style issue. And a whole lot of others.
I'm looking forward to The Truth being told about TW on both a legal front and general media. The money to pay very expensive legal teams for her will run out at some point.
It isn’t enough to keep thanking you for all your hard work. You have my continued support. I hope you are enjoying sunshine and warm weather (not so in my corner of Wales). I feel that Warby made a great error in his judgement. He didn’t see the bigger picture. The appeal must be upheld. It is vital for the People who rely upon the law for fair and equal judgement.
Thank you HM for all you do to keep us informed and for you to be able to document everything that has gone on. We all appreciate you
A very clear summation and I hadn't thought of the connection between the successful Summary Judgement and moving forward with the OW interview. Of course, one you mention it, HM, it is clear that without that Judgement, TW and H probably would not have gone forward with the interview - it would have been far too risky in terms of later challenges to TW's credibility. How different things might have turned out in the absence of that interview!
As they say, hindsight is always 20/20, but I must wonder if things had not gone as they did, TW and H might not have been so badly exposed as they are now. Dreadful as the interview(s) was/were, they served to make large swaths of the public aware of how vicious the intent of the duo are, especially emerging within the context of the Duke of Edinburgh's death. It is possible that the interview(s) and their timing, led to the Queen losing patience at last and branding the couple as the liars they are over the name they chose for their daughter.
Wonky as the Summary Judgement appeared to us, the silver lining to that cloud may have been that it engendered over-confidence in TW and H, they overreached, and ended brutally discredited.
So I am viewing the Summary Judgement, as unhappy as I was when it was announced, through the lens of Unintended Consequences.
Best possible outcome: ANL are granted leave to appeal, and the package of retribution is a larger one than we could have imagined: an appeal, a trial, AND an Out of Patience Queen putting the boot in. I will hope for that.
As it was said, "Oh, what tangled webs we weave/When first we practice to deceive!"
Many, many thanks to Harry Markle for pointing out the striking connection between the Summary Judgement and the interview going forward at what surely turned out to be such a bad time for the duo to do it.
I do hope Mr Justice Warby has noted it, as well.
Cheers, all. TC
It seems that HMTQ has truly lost patience with the duo, at long last, and if there had been shenanigans regarding the SJ (as in tipping-the-scales type) it is certainly unlikely now that BP would do anything to squelch any ensuing scandal. They are possibly at the "let the chips fall where they may" stage, and if a little dirt gets blown onto the RF, well, it won't be the first time, and at least they would have the backing of the Nation this time (in fact if they intervene on TW's behalf, they will lose a lot of what they gained in the Lilibet business).
An appeal allows both sides to present their cases fairly and in the public domain, and that's how it should be. There are more witnesses with varying recollections of the events, and they need to be heard.
People want to know what Sara Latham has to say under oath about the comments made that she assisted with 'that book', because the source wouldn't come out with that statement randomly...
Everything about this case is shrouded in mystery. I'm sure they think that the British public have forgotten, and in many ways we have. So thanks HM for your perseverance in pursuing it.
Thankyou harry for sticking with this. I had begun to lose faith with the Queen and Prince Charles but now hope they will start sticking up for themselves and not let the markles slander the royal family and people of the uk.
Thank you for all the hard work you do. It's so impressive.
I must be thick bc, after reading it twice, I still don't understand the significance of the 15-June action of "Application referred to Lord Justice". Could someone have mercy on me, please, and explain? Sorry to be so dumb.
That was yesterday when the case was updated.
Many thanks Harry. Let's hope that BP has finally realised that 'never complain, never expla in '
will not wash with these two. I hope that with recent events ( HM telling courtiers to refute any comments that are untrue), the gloves are finally off. The unhinged one was allowed an enormous amount of latitude from the judge, who, I think , must now realise that he was ' done up like a kipper'
Many thanks for all your persistance. Keep going!
Penelope Anne Davies I always thought the Judge was far to quick in his decision, one week it appeared to be going in a positive direction (For us anyway) then he appeared to do an about turn. Way far too interested in getting it out of the way before he moved on . However it is not going to go away as he may have hoped. It will go down in the books with his name very prominently featured and not in a good way.
Thank you HM + well done for all the hard work. I'm hoping BP won't be reticent in the future now in telling the truth + justice will be done at last
ANL appear to have been stitched up. Perhaps BP intervened on the Markles' behalf on the understanding that they stop suing the media. This the Markles have not done, presumably in order to maximise the pay-out. The longer they let the case continue, the more likely it is that information becomes available that undermines their position. I would not want to have the Mail for an enemy.
The British press are mostly sitting on the fence, apart from the Mirror and Express who appear to be in their pay. The winners for me are the Daily Star who make fun of the desperate duo. The joke is that publications who still print Marilyn and Elvis absurdity (reincarnated in a cauliflower) the Markle’s can’t touch!
Thank you for your hard work. As a Canadian and living in Toronto I had never heard of TW. I'm thrilled they left Canada. At one point Harry was bring considered to replace our GG. The backlash was huge.
It would have been a non starter because he cannot speak French
So many freebies for them, but at so much cost to Canadians. I’m thrilled they left for all your sakes, but did they really believe they were above the position?!! I was flabbergasted when they left your beautiful scenic country.
Babsie I did not know that, well I vaguely recall it being banded about, but well some even back then knew what a total fool he was . Guess he would have been happy as he could have dressed up in his uniforms a lot.
I hope the recent announcement that the RF will drop its custom of "never complain, never explain" will favorably play into this at some point very soon. Supposedly, going forward, they will be putting out the truth (not their truth) when falsehoods are spread.
Let’s hope the time is now for justice. Thank you Harry Markle for your research and staying on the beat!
Thank you for this. I have been quite downhearted about the way this seemed to be going but it seems that some sort of corner has been turned now by BP. Perhap things might change now.
I really couldn’t believe that the defence was refused to bring their evidence. Surely Everyman is entitled to his/her day in court. It reminded me of the show trials in the bad old Soviet days.
Common tactic in the US for one side to delay giving documents. Often it is the side that initiated the lawsuit when it doesn't go as planned. Happened to us. Also see Mark Steyn vs Michael Mann - this lawsuit has been going on for the better part of a decade due to the delay of documents. The UK and Canadian courts usually don't allow this to happen they are more efficient. TW likely learned it from her US lawyers.
Many thanks HM. Just when I feel that the situation with the dastardly duo will not be resolved, your infos rekindle my hope that justice will be done and that honour and respect will prevail.
great update thanks for all the work - making sense of nonsense.
Thank you for the easy to understand up-date and for the hours you put in for us. I know there are some other members of this group helping you so I thank you all as well. :-)
Thank you Harry Markle for this latest information on the appeal. As an American, I am still hoping your British courts will opt for finding out The Truth and stand for justice and integrity. The lies being spouted from the wanna be celebrity/faux royals must be stopped.
Thank you for the update makes it a lot clearer now
It annoyed me so much the level the wife is being protected. It’s puts me right off the royal family. They need to do the right thing. There is covering up on both sides. If the monarchy is dishonest and corrupt then I will do without them thank you
Because evidence was not heard, H & M displayed their bad judgement and over confidence when they did their interview with O.
Surely the court can demand the information from TW after all the prevarication...isn't she in breach of ? It is making a mockery of the Court system & must be running up huge legal fees.
Thanks you very much Harry Markle. As our US judicial system is based on yours it is vital that fairness be seen to be done. The symbol of justice is a masked figure holding the scales of justice to visually suggest fairness. This entire situation must be a nightmare for the Queen and previously Prince Philip. It is painful to see photos of them with their grandson. As a grandparent myself I can see the love and bond they had. So on a smaller personal scale the pain the California couple are causing to both families AND YOUR COUNTRY is a tragedy on many levels. If you then add in the staff who have dedicated their lives to your country and culture the pain is of epic proportions. Here in the US I now get ACORN TV AND BRITBOX. What I watch is some of the programs that illustrate the lives of ‘ordinary’ people in the U.K. These are the true keepers of your heritage. Harry Markle you have my deepest respect for how you are trying to save your country’s values and standing in the world.
Just had a thought, as the pair are not supposed to use their HRH and JCMH’s was removed recently from an exhibition, should she actually be called HRH Duchess of Sussex?
She had the title when the case began.
Let's hope she doesn't have it upon conclusion.
Thank you
The RF has not taken a stand and seem to have been rendered impotent by TW. The inconsistencies and lies must be challenged by the legal system. Money, titles, privileges must go to maintain the integrity of the legal system and the RF.
HarryMarkle, how long (objectively) do you think this indecisiveness by the court can go on, i.e. how long can or will they (the Court/the Judge) allow the duo to stall the case/any response to ANL's request for documents? Surely this can't last forever. The Palace has to see results (i.e. public attacks/sussexes PR slander) what their mild attitude towards the duo has yielded: it's only hurt the Queen, and the senior royals, while the duo is trying to cement their presence in Hollywood/US. You can't kill 2 birds with 1 stone, so they have to decide: do they save the Queen's legacy/reputation of BP aides (whose job is to protect the Queen) or do they allow the duo to continue throw the mud at the Queen and the family for as long as they choose? I've read some reports where allegedly TW is planning to come for Diana's statue unveiling. I surely hope it's just that : allegations/reports, and not the truth. Also someone wrote that the situation between the duo and the RF/BP will get much worse, before it gets better. I wonder, how much worse? I mean, hasn't Harry attacked his own family enough? Hasn't he burnt too many bridges as it is?
@Kitty...H has indeed attacked enough for us here ( surpassed our limit over a year ago!), but he is an emotional reaction to machinations of TW...none of what is going on now, is without her input. While regrettable that the RF put their concerns too, above citizens and justice, does not ensure her victory...the RF must certainly see public tide now, on their side. Their attention to optics, seems to override their sense of sound and speech...the crowds are roaring disapproval, and their hearing and mutable actions, are seen as intolerable now. Attorneys may be adept in delaying justice with strategic stalling, but perhaps, a triumphant end will be made more emphatic, seen in the clarity of days ahead, without resistant forces which are deceiptful, having their way.
Public perception is important. The process cannot drag on indefinitely because the people rightly see that beyond a certain point, justice delayed, is justice denied.
@Dylan...Well said !
I was wondering that same thing Kitty. Surely they can't keep stalling ad infinitum.
What has happened to the investigation of bullying that the unhinged one allegedly meted out to the people who worked for her? I hope it hasn't been kicked into the long grass!
I check the status of this appeal every morning; I am glad to see at least something besides awaiting documents. Surely the higher Court cannot ignore the shoddy work of Warby.
It does seem to come down to TW holding the cards, which I cannot believe when nearly everything she has said has been proving to be incorrect, or royally recollections vary
They both haven't grasped the fact that if you lie, you need a good memory!
Many thanks for the update, spot on as always.
Oh what a tangled web! I can't pretend to understand all you have so carefully outlined HM, but it's dragging on far too long and must be concluded soon. The public don't forget as easily as BP would like us to. Action and clarity are needed now before the TW gets even more smug resting on her laurels and playing the system. Much to the joy of her lawyers laughing all the way to the bank!
Thank you for the update, Harry Markle.
I genuinely believe that Ms Markle is untouchable, the British legal system makes special rules just for her, she lies and lies and lies and yet she is always seen as a wonderful woman who is a victim, I am frustrated, let down and disillusioned not only by the British legal system but also by the British RF, we no longer have a legal system that we can be proud of or a monarchy that we can be proud of all because of one woman of suspect character who is ruling Britain all because the RF are scared of being called racist. I am worn down by it all
She's not untouchable but she has the best lawyers in this type of case and the law is such that there are always loopholes to be used and exploited to the max. Very clever people and paid accordingly .
Actually she does not have the best lawyers. Warby himself scolded Schillings for their poor law student level pleadings in some documents. It makes his Summary Judgement even more inexplicable!
@Mp...Worn down, but supported by those here, and more who think alone, not knowing of our " preserve, " here...TW might have once, roared as a lion, but she is frayed now, and licking paws that no longer support her rapid abuses. It is frustrating to be sure, seismic shifts create instability in both political and societal shifts...Great Britain is the "canary in the mine," the "bellwether" for the rest of those countries who see the harm H and his handler inflict daily...Perhaps TW was a necessary infliction upon history, to remind all, what truly, is dear. The end is near.
Thank you Harry Markle for your diligence and perseverance. You are a shining example of the truism that eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. We must insist that those in power protect the courts and judicial system from corruption. If they will not do their sworn duty, if justice and the law are dishonored, something precious and priceless will be cheapened and ultimately lost to a gathering hoard of greedy, amoral hypocrites.
my mistake: make that horde---not hoard !!
Thank you. I love seeing your latest piece pop up in my email account.
Rosemary as do we all, since being on this site I have a new early morning routine, come down put kettle on let dog out and look at the inbox while tea is brewing. Its a rather boring day when nothing appears dont you think.
Thank you for the update and analysis; much appreciated
This is getting more like Jarndyce v. Jarndyce every day! I do hope I live long enough to see JCMH and TW given their just desserts. Thank you Harry for another forensic investigation.
Thank you for the update Harry.
Could it be possible to back then there still had some kind of protection from the Palace? but now after all the attacks, if there is going to be a re-trial that the outcome will look totally different?
Thank you HM for bringing us up to date but basically the merry-go-round is doing just that, going round and round !
Thank you. Given the monarchy’s inadequate response to the court, the indifferent response by its employee at the time of the events, the continued sussexs HRH against the wishes of the people, I see the monarchy as having undermined the Court. What is more that is the perception and a dangerous unsettling one. International observers noted the surprising actions of the court and judge in the Assange trial and the whole legal actions to him. It’s not looking good. So many years of lawyers, clerks, barristers, judges and support staff have worked so long. Life long for most to have this broken on a whim of the present monarchy is appalling.
I appreciate the content of your article, it helps understand the legal procedure. I do agree that the defendant appears to have the right to an appeal, and the BRF need to support the British Legal System. If this is dismissed, then I see a future of legal ramifications for British justice as this case will be used by guilty parties to get free from their illegal activities.
Thanks for the update. Don’t know how you have the patience to keep going. I am so over these two. They tire me out with their shenanigans. I have given up reading about them and just stick to your sub stack. It’s all I have the patience for. Thanks!
You will get more truth and commonsense from HM than anywhere else. Harry deserves a medal for all the work he is doing.
Absolutely!
@Joy...I agree ! Perhaps with a forthcoming book or two, the efforts ( and perspectives ,) will highlight motives and subsequent actions upon reflection, that may render answers not obvious in ""real time. " I believe HM will indeed have reward for efforts, once the historical compilation is presented... To safequard historical tradition, to fight when no other has the mettle...to stay when others have abandoned the Battle...yes, a medal would be emblematic of at least, our recognition of a truth warrior...We salute your perseverance and your lonely pursuit of eventual justice ! May your sole efforts preserve that, which all here, hold dear...
Thank you Harry for the update.
Beautifully worded and clear to understand, thank you. Lets hope ANL get their day in court!
Thank you for this great pre-see an explanation of the case. I think it is vital that trust in our judicial system is maintained. It may be that the queen is above the law but those who have left the royal family voluntarily and are seemingly intent on destroying it or not worthy of any protections. I really hope that we will see evidence being given and not just brushed under the carpet. I truly feel this is a sort of watershed in British justice